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October 28th, 2010

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11:37 pm - Boys Love: What's the appeal?
(I tried to look for a G-rated BL pic...google image searching the term "yaoi" gives surprisingly few work-sake results x__X  Yes, that's Duo Maxwell and Heero Yuy from Gundam Wing if you can't tell.)

 I got asked today why I like Boys Love (BL)/ yaoi / whatever other name you want to call it.  

Hmm...honestly I don't know.  I mean, I always figured if I like one pretty boy, two's always better right?  Like how boys enjoy girl-on-girl porn, 2 b**bies are nice, 4 are better kind of thing.  Of course that's generalization and just as I'm sure not all guys like girl-girl, not all females enjoy boy-boy.

Plus I have a tendency to find girls in manga/anime really...whiny...annoying...clingy...behaviors that make me want to ram my fist through my computer screen.  So maybe BL allows me not to have to deal with that?  But then a lot of the guys in BL (especially the ukes) sometimes act like that anyway...whiny, clingy, yet it doesn't bother me so much...I wonder why...

I mean clearly I don't love BL for the stories or anything, even though some have heart-wrenching tales like Ai no Kusabi a lot of it is just...PWP XDD  The art in BL is sometimes quite beautiful, artists like Minase Masara or Yamane Ayano are amazing artists, but then girl-boy mangas/anime also have great artists too, so it can't be just limited to that reason alone.

Honestly I'm not sure what the appeal of BL to me is. I dove into it when I was...13?  Somewhere around there.  I remember because I had just gotten into the Gundam Wing anime at the time and was digging online for fanfics, and anyone that knows Gundam Wing knows that fanfics are like...90% BL so naturally I stumbled onto it.  At first I was like "Ummm...I'm sure Heero wasn't gay in the anime" but then since I hated Relena so much I preferred Heero with Duo or Trowa or Quatre or Wufei or Zechs or Treize anyway (Hilde, Catherine, Dorothy and Sally didn't appeal to me that much either...an Noin and Une..well I didn't find them that irritating but I wasn't in love with their characters either.)  Then it kind of spiraled from there.  I searched tirelessly and got my hands on some Ai no Kusabi, Boku no Sexual Harassment, FAKE and Kizuna videos (these were the days before torrents, aarinfantasy or the likes, these were the days before even kazaa existed...anyone still remember kazaa?).  Then in grade...10 I think me and my 2 best friends got our hands on our first shounen ai anime, Gravitation and it was just such a weird world that was portrayed in the anime.  I was like "2 boys...how does that work?  Wha..?"

I heard some rumor that fangirls support BL as a political thing, you know "I like BL because I support GBLT", but I mean, I support GBLT too yet I don't go searching for girl-girl manga/anime :/  Granted I mean...if I was vehemently anti-homosexuals I probably wouldn't be checking yaoi_daily...well, daily.

Hm...I've kind of wondered about it off and on over the years but never came up with a concrete answer.  I guess I like it just because.  Something in my brain makes me happy when I read/watch it, and it's not like I'm hurting anyone indulging in it so meh, why not?

Any BL lovers on my f-list that want to offer up their thoughts?

And lastly, some humour.  This is "The Ultimate Yaoi Fangirl Song (with ENG subs)", or the "Fujoshi song"  ROFLMAO.  It's hilarious and I laughed so hard when I first listened/watched it.

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Date:October 28th, 2010 06:36 pm (UTC)
It's the same for me, essentially. Two pretty boys is definitely better than one. :D
I sometimes also find girls in manga/anime/books/movies/whatever kind of annoy me, though for me it is also the fact that girls are mothers, sisters, friends, best friends... but to me, they aren't sexy or interesting in that way, so why would I want to read those kind of stories about them?

And for me who even likes real-person slash (like, with Johnny's - I can't understand how anyone who doesn't like shounen-ai can be a Johnny's fan? Isn't that, like, the whole point!?) I don't even think that's weird, either. Because why shouldn't we get to enjoy, dream, fantasize about two beautiful boys going at it!?!?! I don't need another reason, at least! Maybe it tickles the "forbidden-love"-kink I've got, too? XDDDDD

And, honestly, there are SOOO much extremely well written/well-drawn shounen-ai manga! Like, FAKE that you mentioned above is absolutely brilliant - not only their relationship but everything that builds up to it and all the surrounding plots and characters... and Kodaka Kazuma's mangas are all sooooo extremely fantastic!!!

I know for a fact, though, that it's got nothing to do with politics and the like!

Ahh, now I want to re-read everything I can get my hands on right away. XDD

(sorry if I'm totally incoherent, I am soooo super tired right now! XDDD)
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Date:October 28th, 2010 09:00 pm (UTC)
Hrm, I wonder...

From what I've seen, a lot of the characters who are slashed together are usually on some kind of team together fighting to save the world, or go through traumatic experiences together, so even if it's not canon, there's a lot to be argued for why they should end up together. This goes for BL and GL. I never really saw the appeal of BL, but I really like GL.

For example, Noir. You can't help but watch that and be like, yes, Mireille and Kirika. (Have you watched Noir yet? Omg, you have to. Conspiracy theories, secret societies, lots of omgawesome action scenes.) In Mai Hime/Otome, Natsuki and Shizuru. In RGU, Utena and Anthy. I can't help but think, wow, after all the shit they went through together, or for each other, even if their relationship might be platonic in canon (but with a whole lot of subtext!), you can't help but admire or want to root for them! I can see how that case can be made for GW too. Gravitation... I don't know, lol.
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Date:October 28th, 2010 09:02 pm (UTC)
Also, I also think there is something to boys displaying effeminate or homoerotic behavior that's very appealing to girls, because in real life, boys are SO touchy about their masculinity, and it gets really tiresome. A lot of times, I just want to say, wow take a chill pill. So what if you hug or grope a guy? The world would be a better place if guys in real life didn't have their boxers in a twist about their masculinity.
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Date:October 29th, 2010 11:15 am (UTC)
Though excessive effeminacy irritates me to no end because it's so overdone.

I thought Noir was porn when I first saw the cover. Their legs are so... smooth. e_e
But the subtext definitely. IT'S LIKE THE AUTHOR WANTS YOU TO SLASH THEM.
Date:October 29th, 2010 09:35 am (UTC)
Hello.. :))
This is my first time on your journal which I accidentally discovered while searching for the Yamane Ayano community.. ^^"

I totally agree with you.
Personally, I like the restrained drama each story has. Two bishies liking each other? Why not? ^^"
I am also a fan of shoujo manga but I can't help rolling my eyes when I encounter overly annoying and irrational female leads. >_<

Oh, and I love that video you posted. I can't help but laughed so hard.. XDD
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Date:October 29th, 2010 11:11 am (UTC)
Uh, well, I go for het/slash/yuri whenever it calls for it, but my female hormonal teenage instincts lead me to slash - or uh, BL/yaoi the most, since I just find it really hot. You know, the "two dicks instead of one" trope you described.

Plus I have a dom/sub kink so I enjoy seeing men get degraded in a sexual way like they've been doing to women for thousands of years; it's my personal turn on, along with other unpleasant sadistic things that I won't mention. ;D /is depraved

I dispise any clingy, whiny annoying characters, be they girl or boy ( Gender equality ftw! ) and it has turned me away from 80% of yaoi/shounen ai manga I've read. idk, I like my manly men - not girls with detachable penises. And... erm, I've never got into the politics of gay rights and such... Seems interesting though! I'd gladly advocate, proving I get the motivation.

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