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Issue of Tibet and Olympics

Sources for Tibet issue.



~Beijing 2008: Challengin China-bashing

~China On TV

~True Pride

~China Through Arab Eyes

~China and Africa: A Rewarding Relationship

~The Farce of Bashing China's Human Rights Record

~Eco-imperialism is Alive and Well in the West

~China's new Intelligentsia

~Historical maps of China

~Tourist Eye witness account of violent Riots in Lhasa: "Chinese beaten mercilessly"

~Tibetan Facts: Then and Now

~Facing Facts on Tibet (Dalai Lama's previous talks with CCP and his outrageous demands)

~ Chinese abroad hit back at Western media bias over Tibet

~China's Pride vs Western Prejudice

~ The Hypocrisy and Danger of Anti-China Demonstrations

~ Risky Geopolitical Game: Washington Plays ‘Tibet Roulette’ with China

~Pakistan Beware, They Are Cornering China

~China Bashing; It's Back (Washington Post):

~The Hijacking by the Western Media and the Tibetan Elite

~Foolishness over the Olympics and Tibet (Russian news)

~Beijing 2008 - Stop the Sport of China-bashing

~Is Self-determination, as a Principle, Absolute?

~Who's Behind the Anti-China Olympic Torch Relay Campaigns?

~CIA declassified information over Tibet

~LA Times: Intervention Gone Sour: The CIA's Tibet Files

~Is the CIA behind the China-bashing Olympics protests?

~Tibet Q & A

~China's claim to Tibet more valid than US's claim to California

~Tibet, the 'great game' and the CIA

~Tibet, China and the West: Back to stereotypes

~Journey of a Double Standard - From Lhasa to Blibao
facebook article

~BBC interviews Chinese over Tibet

~The Modern China blog

~PBS Discussion Forum

~Ten Commandments of Liberal Debate Strategy
facebook post

~Open letter from a Tibetan

~Top 25 Censored Stories in USA

~Hawaiians also want Liberation

~China Labour Laws Undermined by USA Corporations

~Petition against CNN
in response to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=584D5fHB2H4

Youtube videos on Tibet

Penn and Teller

Support China! 原创《龙哮》视频MV --《Dragon Roar》MV:

Tibet WAS,IS,and ALWAYS WILL BE a part of China:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ke_IlfnV1NA (with Chinese subs)

Rap to "Hit me Baby One More Time" (Britney Spears):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e_4IQsAiJdw (English subs)

How the West views China!!!:

Why Chinese all over the world protest against Western media:

We have nothing to fear!--We love China!:

Global Chinese are proud of you!:

56 Ethnics and 1 China !! long live CHINA !!

Riot in Tibet: True face of western media:

Tell Me Why:

Tibet is already Free (with references):


The Truth about the West - Lies and Hypocrisy on China:

USA propaganda movie in 1940s: Tibet is part of China

Tibet: The Truth (oppression, monks, nuns... you're wrong):

French senator tells you the truth about Tibet:

French senator tells you the truth about Tibet(English of above clip):

Free Tibet, my ass:

Free Tibet, wait, where is Tibet? (Just funny to watch these "Free Tibet" protesters can't even find Tibet on the map XD)

TOP SECRET-CIA: Keep Chinese Annoyed and Disturbed by Tibet:

Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden, Part 1

Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden, Part 2

Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden, Part 3

2008 Tibet Riot, the Truth and Lies 1/4

2008 Tibet Riot, the Truth and Lies 2/4

2008 Tibet Riot, the Truth and Lies 3/4

2008 Tibet Riot, the Truth and Lies 4/4

Angry Mouse

Chinese report on CCTV over Western media bias and Chinese students' response:
正告CNN:网民为什么愤怒?(Part 1 of 3)

正告CNN:网民为什么愤怒?(Part 2 of 3)

正告CNN:网民为什么愤怒?(Part 3 of 3)


Olympic Torch in Paris with handicapped Torch Bearer getting attacked by protesters:
Report of event from Chinese student attending event

Chinese Hero smack down Free Tibet Liar in London 英雄打跑藏独:

unfair media, London 4.6 olympic torch relay,different voic:


Olympic torch relay in london:

Anti-roits in Tibet, voice from Vancouver, BC:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LRxCwo7QGg8 (March 29)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C8vhQIzfUcI (March 14, 2008)

Toronto Chinese peaceful assembly at Dundas square:
Report by CTV "China's Propaganda staged protest in Toronto Canada":

Protest in Munich, Germany (March 29th, 2008):

Chinese students counterprotest at Duke U. (4/9/08)(Durham NC, USA):
~ China protesters outnumbers at Duke University in Durham NC, USA

Rally in Melbourne/Sydney (April 13th, 2008; 6000 people in attendance):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaEsVjGeHHc (MV)

Sydney Pro-China rally, April 13th, 2008 News coverage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qMs7z1FimU (BBC News coverage)

Ottawa parliament hill pro-china rally (April 13th, 2008; 5000 people in attendence):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmWS4cTHmTU (anthem)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW0aajshcYY (speech)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwTmZTIrK7E (Olympic song)

Ottawa Pro-China rally, April 13th, 2008 News coverage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed5bgLLlBss (CTV reports)
Online article from CTV (look on right side for link to video of report from the event)
Ottawa Citizen coverage
Ottawa Citizen coverage 2
The Star coverage
CBC Coverage

Copenhagen, Denmark rally, April 28, 2008:

14 Reasons to Support the Beijing Olympics:

CNN's Lies !I know China!

A westerner's view of China:

China's unfair media treatment:

Tibet! The real Tibet may have you shocked! (Tibet Doc. from a Westerner):

Kishore Mahbubani on Agenda:

Hardtalk: Kishore Mahbubani:


CBC News Report of Tibet:

Voice of Tibet:Attacking the Girl in Wheelchair is FANTASTIC:

Financial Times: South Korea
South Korea: What really happened:

2008 Conflicts in Seoul, the Truth and Lies:

Comments on the BBC news about Tibet:


March 14 Vancouver, Canada
March 29 Vancouver, Canada
March 29 Munich, Germany
March 29 Toronto, Canada
March 29 Calgary ,Canada
April 5 Edmonton, Canada
April 6 London, UK
April 9 San Francisco, USA
April 9 Durham, USA
April 12 Dublin, Ireland
April 13 Sydney, Australia
April 13 Melbourne, Australia
April 13 Ottawa, Canada
April 14 Madrid, Spain
April 19 Vienna, Austria
April 19 Berlin, Germany
April 19 Paris, France
April 19 Los Angeles, USA
April 19 Cardiff, UK
April 19 Birmingham, UK
April 19 Glasgow, UK
April 19 London 2st, UK
April 19 Washington ,USA
April 24 Canberra, Australia
April 26 Hamburg, Germany
April 26 Atlanta, USA
April 26 San Francisco, USA
April 26 Stockholm, Sweden
April 26 Wellington, New Zealand
April 27 Perth, Australia
April 27 Auckland, New zealand

April 28 Copenhagen, Denmark
April 29 Brussels, Belgium
May 3  Edmonton, Canada
May 4 New York, USA
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Helsinki, Finland
May 22 London, UK

作者: 破例 R , Apr 10,2008,16:40
Reposted from http://www.wforum.com/gbindex.html. Feel free to forward, but please give credit to where its due.

"What do you want from Us?"世界论坛网

- A Poem Dedicated to the last 150 years of this planet.
By a Slient, Silent Chinese. 世界论坛网

When We were called Sick man of Asia, We were called The Peril.
When We are billed to be the next Superpower, We are called The threat.

When We were closed our doors, You smuggled Drugs to Open Markets.
When We Embrace Freed Trade, You blame us for Taking away your jobs.

When We were falling apart, You marched in your troops and wanted your "fair share".
When We were putting the broken peices together again, "Free Tibet" you screamed, "it was an invasion!"

( When Woodrow Wilson Couldn't give back Birth Place of Confucius back to Us,
But He did bought a ticket for the Famine Relief Ball for us.)

So, We Tried Communism, You hated us for being Communists
When We embrace Capitalism, You hate us for being Capitalist.

When We have a Billion People, you said we were destroying the planet.
When We are tried limited our numbers, you said It was human rights abuse.

When We were Poor, You think we are dogs.
When We Loan you cash, You blame us for your debts.

When We build our industries, You called us Polluters.
When we sell you goods, You blame us for global warming.

When We buy oil, You called that exploitation and Genocide.
When You fight for oil, You called that Liberation.

When We were lost in Chaos and rampage, You wanted Rules of Law for us.
When We uphold law and order against Violence, You called that Violating Human Rights.

When We were silent, You said you want us to have Free Speech.
When We were silent no more, You say we were Brainwashed-Xenophoics.

Why do you hate us so much? We asked.
"No," You Answered, "We don't hate You."

We don't Hate You either,
But Do you understand us?

"Of course We do," You said,
"We have AFP, CNN and BBCs..."

What do you really want from us?
Think Hard first, then Answer...

Because you only get so many chances,
Enough is Enough, Enough Hypocrisy for this one world.

We want One World, One Dream, And Peace On Earth.
- This Big Blue Earth is Big Enough for all of Us.

never mind the racist thick fake accent,
I am sure this video Just want human Rights.

If you don't know the above references,
Go to libraries and Do your own research.
don't get your facts from the tube,
You wouldn't have a Clue.

Any one is free to use this poem,
Copy Right Notice,
Just Give The Credit,
to the Silent, Silent Chinese.

A Tibetan Youth's Open Letter Concerning the Recent Unrest
Translated from:
[link] (In Chinese)
by http://rebextrip.deviantart.com/

Author Bio:

Lee Yu-Loogn is from the Lee Municipal, Aba County in Sichuan Province. He grew up with his grandparents in Noergai, Aba County, and his hometown is on the border between the Han-China proper and Tibet proper. Lee Yu-Loogn would like to emphasis that the past eight generations in his family are Tibetans, except on his mother’s side, which is ethnically Qiang.

I am from the Aba County in the Sichuan Province of China, and in my home county, most inhabitants are ethnically Tibetan, Qiang, or Han. I am a Tibetan. Should you have any doubt about my identity, please feel free to look me up by my identification: 51322219*****0473. (Translator’s note: that identification is similar to social insurance number, so for security reasons the author does not publish the complete identification on a public forum.)

I would love to see some of my Tibetan kinfolks repent about their actions when they read this article.

How alluring is the concept of freedom! It is surely glorious and right to seek one’s freedom. However, I do not understand why we have to seek this freedom when we already have it. The actions of some of my Tibetan kinfolks are bringing shame to our brother ethnicities, as well as our government. Yes, it is right for us to value our own history and our own beliefs to continue the majestic spirit of King Gesar [link] . When I was at the Seda Buddhist College, I learned the full Epic of King Gesar from the scriptures, and King Gesar brought pride to all of us Tibetans and us Chinese. King Gesar is a hero: he has brought good lives to all of us, but is H.H. the Dalai Lama capable of such? I would like to compare the accomplishment of our hero and the central government. However, I would not like to talk about the Dalai, because he shames me too much to make such comparison on his behalf.

1. We Tibetans are Grateful.

Senor, Zhuoda, and Dunzhu*,

You often come to this forum, and it appears from your speeches that you have already forgotten the teachings of your parents: when you receive, you give back.
(*Translator’s Note: These are the names of the author’s relatives whom he is addressing. )

Do you still remember the stories the Dedideng Grandpa* told us? In case you forget, I shall remind you: he tells that we Tibetans are grateful.
(* Translator’s note: The author refers the Grandpa as A-Mi in his mother dialect.)

Grandpa said that when the Chinese took over Tibet, we Tibetans were truly librated. We were no longer suppressed by those aristocrat slave owners, and we were no longer their slaves or serfs. The government gave us livestock and farms, and they even let us share the aristocrats’ mansion!

Then the authority sent their troops to build us the road to Lhasa. They really did it, and Grandpa clearly recalled the horrendous hardship while building that road! They had to make their own gun powder to blast the boulders, and on that day 17 people sacrificed their lives for us, as they were buried by the fallen rocks.

The authority transported salt and tea for us, but they did not ask anything in return, and replied that it is given by the government. The villagers carried their own barley to feed the trucks, and said: “It is tough for the trucks to carry so much to us!” Then the central government left two of those trucks for the village, and asked nothing in return. After the road was built, we could really go to Lhasa on automobiles!

Later on, we had a drought that strained the grass field, so the livestock did not gain enough fat. In the same year, the winter was exceptionally harsh, and countless livestock froze to death. We were hopeless, but right at the time, the authority informed us that the central government was sending us resources. We could not believe it initially, but in two days, the trucks truly brought us food, duvet, and all that we need. Our fathers performed the long prostration on the grass field out of appreciation: they were not praying to the heavens or the Dalai Lama. Instead, they were grateful for the aid from the government, and the support from the rest of China.

2. To the Separatists:

When it comes to the time of our generations, we have experienced the real progress brought by the central government.

Senor, could you please tell me who has installed electric lights to your home, and who has implemented the satellite TV receptor for you? Could you also tell me who has built the hospital for our village, and where the doctors are from? On whose budget do we have a free way, and who has built telephone system for our village? Who pays the tuition for our younger siblings, and who takes care of us during natural disasters? Do you recall that year of landslide? Your uncle’s* house was destroyed, and who built him a new house? That is right, you are now distinguished because you study abroad, but do you recall Dr. Zhang from Sichuan University? He supports your studies, but what are you doing while you are abroad? What have you done to our country? Do you care about how your family and Dr. Zhang, your benefactor, thinks about you?

(*Translator’s note: here the author refers to his acquaintance’s uncle’s wife as Mi-er. Mi-er means mother’s brother’s wife in his language.)

Now that we also have the railway, do we still live under poverty? You know we are not impoverished, but Dalai Lama still leeches from us. His adherents sit in the temple, and are inaugurated as Living Buddha at his will. Yet all they do is to touch the foreheads of villagers, and our village folks become obliged to send piles and piles of hard earned money to their temple. The central government has helped us Tibetans so much, yet they do not even charge tax from us. They consider our situations difficult, so they cancelled our taxation. We give our money to the temple, and then we go to the government for financial aid. Did the government say anything? No, all they say is that: “We respect the religious feelings of every ethnicity.”

Those who want to separate Tibet from the rest of China, are you really suppressed? Who is slaughtering you? No body does that. Making up such stories will make you despicable to the entire humanity.

3. To International Friends:

I know you are friends with my brothers, and they suggest you to come to this forum, so I would like to a few words to you in the following passage.

In China, we Tibetans enjoy equal rights as every other ethnicity, and in addition we enjoy the minority welfare. I am sure you have heard rumors such as that the Tibetans are ethnically cleansed by the Chinese, or the Chinese government brutally suppresses the Tibetans’ protest. You may have also heard that all Tibetans are protesting for independence, or that the Chinese government does not support actual construction for Tibetans and all they do is for colonization. My friends, those rumors are simply what they are: rumors! Let me tell you what is happening in my home county, because I believe that I have more authority to talk about my home than anyone else.

The central government has been supporting Tibet ever since it implemented the “Open Door Policy”, and the following are what I find to be some of its most substantial aid:

  1. Tibet is one of the first minority regions where the central government cancels the taxation.

  2. It is not true that Tibet lacks freedom. Tibet is one of the autonomous regions of China, and we Tibetans have been ruling Tibet with our own hands.

  3. We also enjoy various aids from the central government. The central government gives national funding to encourage college graduates to come to Tibet, and help the construction in education, manufacturing etc.

  4. The central government has built a railway for Tibet in order to help Tibet’s economical growth. Meanwhile, during natural disasters, the central government always aids the Tibetan people with all of its power.

I also want to make a few other points:

  1. We Tibetans are not discriminated. The other ethnicities treat us as brothers, and we enjoy all the rights and welfare applicable to other Chinese citizens.

  2. We Tibetans are truly grateful for the rest of China. It is not true that all Tibetans are protesting for independence. In my hometown, the population is 70% Tibetan, but there are only a few carry ambitious schemes. They are only one out of four thousand, and those people are scorned as trash in my hometown. My friends, I am sure that you are well educated and freedom embracing individuals. Please do not be fooled by those who are despised by even their own people.

  3. We Tibetans are not impoverished: Tibet has a higher mean household income level than most of China. In my hometown, on average each household has 40 cattle and 100 goats. The average household’s annual profit from cattle, wool*, and medicine trade is approximately 100,000 RMB (14,271.44 USD**), while an average person has annual income of 20,000 RMB (2,854.289 USD). Yet because most people choose to donate much of their earning to the temples, the do not appear as well off as their income indicates.
    (Translators Note: * The author suggests in the article that in his hometown, cattle wool is also traded in addition to traditional wool from lamb or goats.
    ** The currency exchange rate is quoted on April 11, 2008 from [link])

  4. The Tibetans are not suppressed during the recent riot. The illegal protesters are constrained by the different levels of police according to international charter, and only the violent protesters who attack the officers are forcefully arrested. I wonder if the situation is treated any differently in your country.
    (Additional information: I found a report on how such rioters are treated in Denmark: [link])

I believe my brothers will not deny the above statements, so please ask them for further clarification.

4. To the 14th Dalai:


What have you done? You take our money from cattle trade, and now you are also trying to take away our happiness.

There is a riot this year! Dalai you tell us that we need freedom. We Tibetans need freedom, and that is why we need independence.

Your Holiness, I am referring to you by name* now. I believe you will see my article, because your adherents will show it to you. I would not like to discuss whether the Communist China is right or wrong here, instead I would like to give my analysis of the consequence of Tibet’s independence.
(Translator’s Note: * In most traditions to the north east of the Himalayas, one only refers to people of equal or lower rank, generation, or social class by name. )

First of all, Tibet will face economical disaster after independence. You know that Tibet’s principal is from the trade of livestock, their by product, and medicine. Once Tibet declares independence, the rest of China will become politically hostile, and will stop its economical relationship with us. There are 2.62 million* people from Tibet and surrounding areas, yet we can no longer have cattle trade with Lanzhou, Chengdu etc. or with the rest of China proper. In that case, who shall we trade with? Perhaps we can trade with India, but India itself is a major agricultural country. You also realize that China can easily employ its present power to force India to stop international relations with us. When that happens, Tibet will be the next Mongolia, and be sandwiched by two major powers without a port. Even if the United States wants to help us, it will not be able to do so directly. Without an economical backbone, will Tibet go back to the theocratic serfdom it used to be?
(Translator’s Note: the author has made a slight mistake here and quotes the population of Tibet to be 3,000,000. I have corrected it with reference to the 2000 population census. )

In addition to the economical disaster, Tibet also lacks the military power to defend itself. I am sure you are aware that Tibet does not have its own heavy industry, hence unable to construct its own military equipment. Without a reliable economy, what can we use to trade for weapons? Perhaps the U.S. will give us some weapons, but that is far from enough. When facing the tanks and airplanes of the People’s Libration Army, do you plan to defend the “state” with mere infantry? Without our own army, what should you employ to gain that independence? Will India give you aid? Do you recall your last visit to India, and the Indian Prime Minister’s response? He does not support the Tibetan Government in Exile, because he is unwilling to be hostile to China. Our neighbor Pakistan is in alliance with China, and it is extremely difficult to build an international relationship with it. All the other neighboring countries are in alliance with Russia. Do you really think Russia would give up its relation with China to side with you?

Meanwhile, please do not over estimate the support you have from the Tibetan people. Do you really think that all Tibetans are united under your leadership? If so, you are mistaken. The Tibetans are capable to think for themselves, and to judge which party treats them better. The recent riot fully demonstrates the situation. Your have less than thousands* of loyalists in the entire Lhasa, and you hardly have any ten thousand* adherents in the entire Tibetan region. Let us take the upper bond, and assume that you have ten thousand supporters in Tibet. That will give you the support of one out of three hundred (1/300) Tibetans. If you take away the wage you pay those people, perhaps only 1000 will still be loyal to you, and that gives you the support of one out of three thousand (1/3000) Tibetans. There are rumors that you compare yourself as the Tibetans’ Mao Zedong, yet the brutal fact is that you do not have the people’s support Mao once had**.
(* Translator’s Note: in Chinese language, the terms like thousand and ten thousand are used as estimate like how in English language we use “hundreds” and “thousands”.
** Historical Note: It may appear impossible to the Western readers for Mao to have the support of the people, yet one needs to realize that without the people’s support it is impossible for the communist government to establish in China in the first place. The fact was that the capitalist government had the support from the U.S., while the communist government lacked analogous support from any external body. Some might claim USSR had supported the Chinese communist part, but the fact remains that the USSR itself was devastated after WII, while the U.S. mainland was literally untouched by the war. )

You are gradually losing on the religions frontier as well. It may appear that you still have the people’s support because your temple still receives donation, yet the fact is that only the older generation gives to your temple. It is advisable for you to count how many of the new generation donate to your temple, and there are not many. Most of the younger generation stops believing in you, because your international actions appear like a circus performance to us. Your Holiness, how much have you earned from that kind of international performance?! How should we believe in you when you lack the proper dignity of a Living Buddha, and when your actions bring shame to us?
(Translator’s note: While the Dalai Lama may be losing on the religious frontier, it does not mean the waning of Buddhism in Tibet. In fact, Tibetan Buddhism has several properly recognized spiritual leaders other than the Dalai Lama.)

In short, Your Holiness, Tibet lacks both the economical and the martial resources to be an independent nation. Further more, you lack the support of the Tibetan people, as well as the religious backing at home to be the leader of the independence movement.
(*This short conclusion is inserted by the translator to make the article more logically comprehensible.)

5. To My Cousins:

Senor, Zhuoda, and Dunzhu*,

I would like to inform you that your actions are already violating the law as well as the moral baseline. Despite that the government has laid no charge on you, we as your relatives will not forgive you as easily. If you keep up with your actions, I will be waiting for you in Chengdu, and I look forward to having a really serious discussion with you. Your parents have contacted me, saying that they have lost contact with you for more than a year, and they are concerned for your safety. I did not tell them that you have become adherents to the Dalai Clique, because I fear that they might kill you once they find out. Perhaps you can still contribute to the real progress of our country, but if you keep up with your action, you will be in physical danger from our relatives. I, your cousin, is not a coward, I am simply rational. I understand who is really fit to lead us Tibetans towards abundance.

You have changed your phone number, so I cannot contact you anymore. I know you often come to this forum, so I hope that after you read this article, you will stop your wrong doing. Please do stop. Other wise, our village folks will not forgive you, your parents will not tolerate you, and neither will your close friends. You have brought shame to all us Tibetans.

Nowadays whenever I see reports such as the “The Tibetans so and so”, or “The Tibetans Riot”, I feel like to find a corner and weep. I long to explain that we Tibetans are also one of the many Chinese ethnicities, but who would listen to me? All I can do is to explain to all my friends that we Tibetans are not anarchists as you may perceive us to be.

My cousins, my blood kin, please stop giving the others any more reasons to fear us Tibetans as if we are all mobsters.

Loogn in tears.
Tony Collins (UVA) wrote11 minutes ago.I read one persons reply to someones comment, and felt I needed to reply to them. The following is their comment and my reply. I know its long, but please read in entirety if you want to comment, thanks:

"I don't think that my country (or any one else's for that matter) will profit from a "split" China if that means Tibetan independance. I think your country's economy is definitely strong enough to handle it without any major economic crisis. So wherever you pulled that idea out from i think you should throw it back in the trash. Your country deserves free speech and a free press so that you can learn what really happened in Tibet and in tianenman square in 1989. And you are absolutely right about the gun control issue in the US. No country is perfect, but at least in the US we can speak out about it."

My reply:

There wasn't a reply button, but I felt I should reply. I've been studying Chinese history for the past 6 years. At first, just as an interest while in the Navy, then later in college as a major. I've traveled to China and Tibet, and really love both places. I am first and foremost an American, and if there was ever a war with China, I'd be first (though sad) to bomb Beijing.

The Chinese government is corrupt and far from perfect, but they have the thoughts of their own countrymen at heart. It is no different than any other country on Earth, including our own. There is a solid line between the Chinese people and the Chinese government. The people are very kind, and most are just content to survive day by day. The majority don't really care about free speech as long as they have a job and money to live on.

I am proud to be American, love and cherish all the freedoms we have in this country. I think owning a gun is awesome. Granted, handguns are only meant to kill people, but they are still awesome and I want one. If I wasn't a poor student, I'd probably own one.

I've studied the Tiananman Square incident with much fervor and interest, because I coudn't understand how the Chinese government could have so little care about their own people. Much to my surprise, it was the students who provoked the military and incited riots. The students peacefully protested for talks with party leaders to try and bring democracy to China. The student's communication with each other and their leadership was very poorly planned. The government finally gave in to their demands for talks, and in return asked them to clear the square for the arriving Russian leader, Stalin. The students never knew they got the talks they asked for, and therefore never left. The party leaders repeatedly warned them they would send the military in. Eventually they did send the military, but the people told the military that it was their own people they were marching towards. The military decided not to go forward, and they turned and left. This is also included in the famous picture of the man in front of the tanks. The students, who were now joined by intellectuals and workers from all different fields, started making demands for higher wages, better jobs, and even asked every leader in China to step down and retire and let people vote for new leaders. The people in the streets began to get violent in their demands, and rioting and looting began all over the streets. The students voices were now drowned out by all the common people who just wanted to rob and loot. This time the military returned, and the people didn't ask them to leave. They instead set up road blocks by burning cars in the street, and threw rocks and fire bombs at the military. The military was ordered not to shoot people, but to shoot above their heads. This worked for a while, but some military people were injured from rocks and fire bombs and aimed lower against orders. (much like Boston Massacre). After some people were killed on both sides, the whole city went crazy. Common people were killing soldiers, but soldiers were killing more common people.

Anyways, I'm getting off subject. China has been fearful of another massacre like June 4, 1989 in Tiananman, so they banned the massing of large groups without a permit. They should have free speech, but the country could not survive with it yet. There are too many who could gather the uneducated (far greater than the educated) and raise a rebellion. This has happened hundreds of times in China's 5000 years of history.

As for Tibet, it has been part of China throughout history. When the Qing Dynasty fell in 1911, the country broke apart and there were several warlords who owned various parts of China. Tibet was far from the larger cities, and was forgotten while everyone struggled for power. The Communists led by Mao Zedong were fighting for control against Chiang Kai-shek and the Nationalists. US President Theodore Roosevelt was told by his generals in China that the people followed Mao Zedong, and that Mao's Communist army was more disciplined. The president was a close friend of Chiang Kai-shek, and decided go against his generals suggestions and support the Nationalist. Mao eventually won even though the Nationalists had more advanced weaponry. This is why China closed themselves off to the US up until 1972 when Nixon went to China. After Mao announced the founding of the People's Republic of China, he had united China once again. Tibet (which has always been a province of China) was seperated from China's influence from 1911 until 1950. The current Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso, was announced as the spiritual ruler of Tibet in 1940 at age 5. He was just a puppet, and the Lamas really ruled Tibet. They were greedy and corrupt, and ruled by telling the people if they didn't do what they were told, they would pay for it in the next life. They killed, raped, and pillaged with no one to oppose them. The common Tibetan people were starving, and when the Chinese returned and reclaimed Tibet the people were truly happy. The Lamas fled, and brought the spiritual leader with them. Some Tibetans, blinded by religion felt they must follow the Dalai Lama into India or suffer in the next life, but most stayed and were happy.

America would definitely profit from China not gaining power. China and America have opposed each other for centuries, and an economicly powerful China could (and currently is) crippling America. They have the man power to build and create for extremely low costs. Because of that, many US jobs have gone to China because American businessmen can get rich that way (currently what I'm studying to do).

You mentioned that China's economy is strong enough to handle giving Tibet freedom from China, but that is also not true. Tibet is a huge autonomous region in China, and has many natural resources. All of China's major rivers flow from the Himilayan Mtns providing all the fresh water for China. If China gave up Tibet, and the Tibetans built damns blocking the water, then millions of Chinese would die from starvation or dehydration. The crops and people would not get the water they need. Also, China has spents billions of dollars modernizing Tibetan cities, and building roads and railroads into and throughout Tibet. Currently, the worlds highest railroad goes into Tibet and there is a new modern railroad direct from Beijing to Lhasa (Tibets capital).

The majority of Tibetans support China, and do not wish to be seperated. If seperated, Tibet will not have the economy to survive as an independant nation.

Thanks for reading all of this.
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