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May 2nd, 2009


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10:46 pm - ??
If someone says (or believes) something like "all Canadians are stupid" or "all Americans are dumb" can that be categorized as racist?  Canadian and American aren't exactly races of people though.  Yet if you apply those phrases to a country with a more homogenous population, then it'd be racist.  So then how do you categorize or label someone who discriminates against the population of a country that isn't all the same race?  Can't call them "nationalist" because that word means something completely different.  Hm...

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From:cavechan
Date:May 3rd, 2009 02:57 am (UTC)
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Of course it is racist. XD I mean... I have Portuguese, Slovak, and many other bloodlines in me, but I associate myself as American of course. America is a country made up of all different races and different backgrounds, but we are still all one people unfortunately.

That sounds like some terrible propaganda. XDXD

That's why "Americans" in manga/anime never actually really -seem- American. They're just all stereotyped and have names like Ashton Kenneby.
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From:koneko_desu
Date:May 3rd, 2009 03:10 am (UTC)
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But looking on dictionary.com all the definitions relate racist/racism to the belief that one race is superior to another or the discrimination of another race, which means technically nationalities like Canada and America aren't included since Canadian and American aren't races but nationalities (albeit technically most countries aren't completely a single race either, but there's usually a dominant one that's more prominent than what is the case in Canada or America).

Is it just that nowadays we toss racist/racism around more casually, using the term to label anyone who discriminates against an entire group of people, regardless if that group is grouped together due to race or not?
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From:cavechan
Date:May 3rd, 2009 04:44 am (UTC)
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I see what you mean....

Well, in the end it's all discrimination and needs to go away.
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From:koneko_desu
Date:May 3rd, 2009 02:11 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, it's just I was in the middle of a debate and some dude made a discriminatory remark towards Canadians and I wanted to call him/her racist but I wasn't sure if the term applied.
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From:blackbrownsocks
Date:May 4th, 2009 04:03 am (UTC)
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Hmm... How bout coining a new term, like "nationist"
(wanted to put nationalist, but we all know that's taken =P)
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From:abomvubuso
Date:May 3rd, 2009 02:05 pm (UTC)
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I'd categorise them as Americanophobes or Canadophobes. Or just outright Haters.

Curiously, a statement of mine on the politicsforum comm was misinterpreted by the mod as if i was saying all Americans are dumb. For which i was duly banned from there ever since.

Some months ago, the same mod went too far while imposing his self-sufficient ultimate-truth to everyone, he kicked my pal mahnmut out of the same comm too, and it was the final drop which triggered a chain of events, resulting into the creation of the talk_politics comm, one of whose mods i happen to be now.

Ironically, part of my responsibilities there is to make sure people tone down their hatred and such things like "Americans are dumb" and such racist/hater/phobia/whatever stuff is not being spread.
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From:koneko_desu
Date:May 3rd, 2009 02:09 pm (UTC)
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Accusing someone of being an Americanophobe or Canadophobe doesn't have the same ring as snapping that they're racist, lol.
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From:abomvubuso
Date:May 3rd, 2009 02:11 pm (UTC)
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True. Words and terms are of great significance. A proverb says: "A word makes no hole". I disagree. I think the proper word can make a pretty damn big hole :D
From:dave_baker
Date:May 4th, 2009 01:02 am (UTC)
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Call them stupid and revel in the irony.

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